Is This Mother Of A Deaf Child Going Beyond The Bounds Of Common Sense In Her Demands?

[dave50]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-42776454
Is she just pushing an agenda? I think she is being unreasonable and trying to make a point.

[dannyk13]

Lynne, what she said , in essence, was that she had a wonderful time and wanted other deaf people to have the same experience,For this reason she is suing to have a law passed regarding this, but there is already that law in existence.

[New Judge]

Utter nonsense. Perhaps she'd have been better off with this:

https://uk.ask.com/youtube?q=monty+python+wuthering+heights+by+semaphore&v=kqiUGjghlzU

[New Judge]

This might be a better link:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/kqiUGjghlzU?rel=0&autoplay=1

Sorry to trivialise the matter as being deaf must be awful. But to go to a pop concert and expect the producers to provide sign-language interpretation is just about the daftest thing I've heard for a while.

[Mamyalynne]

I haven't seen the details of the legal side Danny, can't improve on what I've said.

[Mamyalynne]

Trivialise away NJ, things are always comic when they don't affect us.

[gness]

You're lucky you could hear it then, NJ....and an unnecessary link.

Have you read all the information in Hc's article or looked at my videos to see the difference it makes?

[dannyk13]

From the OP's link:
Under the Equality Act 2010, any organisation supplying a service to the public is under a duty to make reasonable adjustments to ensure that a disabled person's experience is as close as possible to that of someone without a disability

[dannyk13]

^for Mamalynne^

[gness]

Mamya.....NJ's posts are evidence of the ignorance and lack of understanding we hoped were behind us.

[Mamyalynne]

I'm not being clear here - I do not know what the wording is on her legal case (best phrasing I can think of).

[Mamyalynne]

Possibly so Gness.

[dannyk13]

OK

[mushroom25]

on occasions, those who purport to be activists supporting the deaf don't help the cause. not that long ago, the BBC's science correspondent reported on some medical advance or other for those with hearing loss. when one of these activists was interviewed it wasn't a case of "hurrah for medical science", but a hostile, contorted-faced rant likening efforts to help the deaf to hear to attempts to cure gays of their homosexuality.

[gness]

I have come across some like that, Mushroom but they are few and far between.....

The ones I met were of the angry natured and would have leapt on any cause to express their anger....x

[pixie374]

I haven't read all the posts here, but wouldn't the easiest thing be to show a screen up with sign language, like they do on TV? At least then people would be looking in the right direction already and would make more sense than individual interpreters for each and every person that would benefit from it?

[gness]

Pixie...if you look at at least one video you'll see the benefit of a live interpreter.......and it's only one interpreter required...not one for each deaf person.....
The group/band live it what people want to see....and the interpreter mostly via peripheral vision......not a screen....
Do look.....particularly my last one and tell me if you think it's a wonderful benefit.....or not.....x

[pixie374]

Oh, I see... well, yes :-)

[gness]

Thank you...... the first video shows a signer rehearsing and learning to sign with the performers....makes such a difference.... :-)

[bednobs]

warning* i have not watched the videos however gness says this about them "the first video shows a signer rehearsing and learning to sign with the performers"
I think the key here is in the wording of "reasonable" adjustments. While the person suing may find that a reasonable adjustment, most people would not i would guess.
We will find out i suppose what the courts define as reasonable in this case

[New Judge]

Mamya.....NJ's posts are evidence of the ignorance and lack of understanding we hoped were behind us.

It’s neither but thanks for mentioning it. My train of thought takes this into account:

“Under the Equality Act 2010, any organisation supplying a service to the public is under a duty to make reasonable adjustments to ensure that a disabled person's experience is as close as possible to that of someone without a disability”

The principle sensory stimulus provided by a pop concert is sound. I agree the sight is an attraction too, but the main event is the sound. With the best will in the world, no amount of signing will introduce the sensory stimulus provided by the sound. There is no way that the disabled person’s experience in this example will be even remotely close “to that of someone without a disability”. It is very unfortunate, but there it is. It’s like a blind person attending a snooker match and having an audio commentary provided. They will know what's going on, but they'd not have an experience as close as possible to that of a sighted person..

So please, before dismissing another’s comments as ignorant, just have a little think about the situation. I injected some light-heartedness into the proceedings because, quite frankly, a semaphore (or signed) version of Wuthering Heights would make more sense than signing at a pop concert.

The Equality Act has seen some fine changes made to the lives of disabled people in the UK. Unfortunately using it to insist on signing at a pop concert is not one of them.