Jab Passports After All Adults Have Been Offered A Vaccine?

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56522652
Fair enough?

[rowanwitch]

I have already been refused service when we were allowed into cafes eff because I couldn't sign in using the QR code displayed in a coffee shop. They refused to accept my details using any other method. Heard one of the servers say it will keep the Oldies out.

[bluemoon1]

I'd have smashed the place up, then said I'm not too old to do that.

[OldChestNuts]

"i read this from the beginning, my hairdressers have a QR code on their door, and still he lets people in without signing in. at least he did before the current lockdown."

It shows that people are not keen with such system, people don't want to give the personal details away including where there about.

[emmie]

had the same problem with using a local cafe, i don't have the QR oln my phone, and the fact remained my mate did and paid for our repast, when i gave her half in cash

[emmie]

i know -

[Jackdaw33]

What is a QR code and how do you get one?

[bobbinwales]

Am not sure why people are getting worked up now as nod ecisons on this will be made until the summer "He said no decisions had been made but there would be an update on the idea in April. A review will report in June."
Its not going to work on a wide scale as noones going want to faff around at cinemas, footballs grounds, raves and few establishments bother with the hassle of arguments at the entry points. Anyway it'll be discriminatry against BAME, antivaxxers, pregnant, disabled, the young and those too ill to be jabbed.
Its only ever going to be considered for things like air travel and maybe jobs in certain areas like care homes.
But maybes goverment is just flying a kite to persuade more to geta jab

[woofgang]

TTT ich: "Ick "There’ll never be an internationally approved passport. "That doesn’t really make sense" " - what do you think the current passport system is?"

o god I am agreeing with TTT

[woofgang]

Bobbinwales "Anyway it'll be discriminatry against BAME, antivaxxers, pregnant, disabled, the young and those too ill to be jabbed. "

Why? BAME are safer vaccinated, its a choice for antivaxxers, pregnant women can usually be vaccinated, why can disabled people not be vaccinated? Those who are young can carry a birth certificate (and probably shouldn't be there alone) and the very few people who should not be vaccinated can be given an exemtion certificate. I agree it can't work until everyone over the age of 18 has been offered at least one jab.

[rowanwitch]

It's two ways at the moment, almost since the beginning establishments have used a QR code that you scan but by some sort of black magic they get your contact details in case someone infected was in the place when you were. That's what I fell foul of. The option where you would have your code that they scan could work on a print out, in the way you can print out an e ticket for travel. However a printout would be hard to check, anyone can carry a printed QR code. You are less likely to let someone to out carrying your mobile. I don't know why they don't go the whole hog and offer vet style microchips. I would happily have one. They were talking about implantable banking chips, no difference in my mind.

[bobbinwales]

//Bobbinwales "Anyway it'll be discriminatry against BAME, antivaxxers, pregnant, disabled, the young and those too ill to be jabbed.//

Because allready groups are arguing this and we know how much disruption protestors can cause. Should of added the poor as well. Indirect discrimination. Am sure Gina Miller or someone will allready have plans to challange it.

On pregnant women my understanding is there not able to have the vaccinne. One of my famly is pregnant and has been told she wont be able to have it. Has this changed?

Its just not going to work at most pubs, football grounds, cinemas, retraunts, there will be to many confrontations, protests. It may work at say theatres where you buy a ticket in advance and these people are less likeley to argue.
And its fine for things like visiting carehomes/hospitals altho again the human rights/discrimination lawyer's may dissagree

[woofgang]

bobbin https://www.rcog.org.uk/en/news/updated-advice-on-covid-19-vaccination-in-pregnancy-and-women-who-are-breastfeeding/

[bobbinwales]

After a quick reading seems its accepted as okay for some category of pregnant women depending on other health issues and if in frontline roles but not generally.
Anyway know a survey showed most support covid passports for flights and in principle but are less keen ifit means staffing and queue s at pubs and cinemas etc. I heard a phone in where lots of irate people complain it was discriminatimg against bame, the poor etc and even a tory mp was hostile saying it was disciminatory and a step to far hed die in ditch to resist.itsjust not going to happen this year so am just going to wait and see whats proposed

[237SJ]

So what happens when a foreign tourist turns up at the pub/restaurant and other UK attractions? Will they be denied entry because they are not on the UK database?

[ToraToraTora]

yes, but if they are not correctly set up in their country they wont even have been able to fly here anyway. In reality the system will be pretty much world wide, like the passport system.

[237SJ]

I`m not really sure what you mean by the passport system being worldwide. Passports are scanned on entry to countries but details of the passport holders are not shared (which is why you have to enter your API details when you buy an airline ticket)

[ToraToraTora]

passports are scanned on departure and fed to the receiving port. The system is in effect world wide, a country required a particular parameter for entry then they won't even be allowed to depart. Happens all the time now, they'll just bolt the covid vaccine into the system

[237SJ]

No they are not. That's complete cobblers -sorry.

[ichkeria]

I would hope that by the time foreign tourists are allowed back this will all be irrelevant

[ToraToraTora]

237sj what do you think happens when they scan your passport at both ends?